Self-play pretraining with zero data: models bootstrap from random init

burny_tech · x · 2026-09-27

A proof-of-concept called Self-Play Pretraining with Zero Data: two models start from random initialization — a generator proposes programs for a universal Turing machine and a learner trains on the outputs — never touching real data. Zero-shot validation loss on images, text, audio, and melodies decreases predictably with self-play compute, and the learner develops in-context learning.

The sharer's framing: ML progress has always been bottlenecked by our courage to propose ideas that "can't possibly work" and test them anyway. Co-led by Stanford researchers with Noah Goodman and Yoav Levine among co-authors.

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