'If Your Pass Rate Is 0, You Can't RL': Why Distillation Still Matters

fleetwood___ · x · 2026-09-25

A debate over RL vs distillation: one side argues SFT as the primary capability driver was a 2023-24 story, and in 2026 it's all RL environments — plus RL is a way to offload compute, especially using fraudulent subscription accounts.

fleetwood counters: if your pass rate is 0, you can't RL at all — with no initial capability there's no reward signal to learn from, so distillation remains absolutely crucial.

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