Alibaba roadmap: Qwen4 in training, Qwen4.5/Qwen5 up to 10T params, Qwen-Image-3.1 by year-end
julianharris · x · 2026-09-23
Per third-party notes on Alibaba's Apsara conference (Sept 22):
- Qwen4 is in training, with a roadmap for Qwen4.5 and Qwen5 projected to scale up to 5-10 trillion parameters; Qwen-Image-3.1 ships before year-end.
- Automated self-training: Qwen3.8-Max completed 33 iterative training cycles, lifting its Artificial Analysis score from 40 to 45.
- Multimodal: debut of Qwen3.8-LiveTranslate, cutting real-time interpretation latency from 2.8s to 2.3s.
The poster argues that if Qwen5's 7B matches Qwen3.8's 27B intelligence — and Qwen6 does it at 4B — Western labs should worry. (Roadmap details are unverified third-party summaries.)
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