Weaviate Podcast #145: Humans& Researchers on Persimmon, a User Model That Predicts Human Turn-Taking

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The 145th Weaviate Podcast features Alexis Ross, Manya Bansal, and Niloofar Mireshghallah from Humans& on making AI understand humans better.

The centerpiece is Persimmon, a user model designed to predict how people respond in multi-turn conversations, including natural turn-taking and multi-person interaction. Notably, the goal isn't a more human-sounding assistant — it's matching the distribution of human behavior, including pushback, confusion, and frustration.

The guests argue that while AI models are advancing rapidly in coding, math, and classification, they still underperform at more human tasks like teaching and writing. Worth a listen for anyone interested in human-AI interaction and user modeling.

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