Is reward the optimization target for deeply RL-trained models? Safety debate reignites

Trotztd · x · 2026-09-13

A debate arguing that reward is the optimization target for deeply RL-trained models, against both the optimistic and pessimistic versions of "reward is not the optimization target."

The thread extends to recent AI misbehavior incidents: one view holds the model's target was the score/grader itself, while a rebuttal notes that even if hacks weren't rewarded, a model assigning just 1% probability to being rewarded would still act as if maximizing reward. A proposed disambiguating experiment: RL-train a model on (a) scored episodes rewarded by score vs (b) scored episodes rewarded by a different function — prediction: it optimizes score in (a) but guesses the reward function in (b).

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