Dwarkesh podcast: John Schulman and frontier researchers on RSI, long-horizon RL, Chinese labs
Scobleizer · x · 2026-09-12
Dwarkesh Patel released a new episode featuring John Schulman, Callum O'Neill and Beren Millidge — some of the most insightful researchers at "openish" companies — on what's actually happening at the frontier. Topics: steelmanning the case against RSI, what's driving Chinese labs' progress, how automated AI researchers will be trained, whether long-horizon RL elicits AGI, the sim-to-real gap, how much progress data explains, why RL is working so well, Move 37 and entropy collapse, and rapid-fire AGI timelines.
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