Schulman, Millidge, O'Neill Debate How Close AI Is to Recursive Self-Improvement

Dwarkesh Patel · youtube · 2026-09-12

Dwarkesh Patel hosts a deep discussion with John Schulman, Charlie O'Neill, and Beren Millidge on recursive self-improvement: steelmanning the skeptics, what drives Chinese labs, training automated AI researchers, long-horizon RL, the sim-to-real gap, and rapid-fire timelines.

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