Debate: human behavior is instrumentally constrained, but not Bellman-equation backchaining

enormochungus · x · 2026-08-30

enormochungus and jdpressman debate instrumental vs terminal behavior. He argues all behavior is instrumental, but tactic choice is heavily constrained by environment, cognitive architecture, and intelligence; humans' reputations and long interaction histories create Newcomblike constraints that blur signaling versus real preference. He distinguishes the Yudkowskian paperclipper (no value) from anthropoid robot successors (some value) as different flavors of "instrumental convergence". jdpressman replies that we face a vast space of possible goals rather than minds, which doesn't undermine doom arguments—humans wiped out Neanderthals after all.

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