Does CEV Equal 'Taking Over the World'? AI Safety Community Debates

ohabryka · x · 2026-08-16

ohabryka counters weidai11, arguing that if the US government unilaterally extended sovereignty globally while granting citizenship, most would call it 'taking over the world' even if it also spreads democracy. He further argues that CEV, if successful, would empower hypothetical or simulated humans rather than actual ones, potentially constituting a takeover. He notes JD Pressman explicitly said MIRI aimed to define a math object to take over the world.

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