Reddit Debate: Fake Open Weights from Giants Like Kimi Are Eroding Trust
Ok-Shower7286 · reddit · 2026-07-30
A Reddit user recently posted a strong critique against the growing trend of "fake open weights" in the AI LLM industry. The author initially felt disgusted by big labs releasing open-weight models built on unconsensually scraped data, but eventually accepted it as a contribution to the democratization of AI.
However, the current state of the industry has frustrated them again. Some companies are releasing bloated models with massive parameter counts (e.g., 3 trillion parameters) that no ordinary developer can actually run locally, purely for marketing clout. The author specifically calls out Kimi for this behavior, labeling it as manipulative "gaslighting open weights."
They warn that if other open-source champions like DeepSeek or Qwen pull similar stunts, they will face backlash from the developer community. The post sparked a heated debate on what constitutes true open-source AI.
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