Tokens called a great financial invention: usage barely correlates with value
A discussion on the economics of token-based billing unfolded on November 7. lujasper offered the central observation: tokens will go down in history as one of the greatest financial inventions — never before has a metered resource had such a loose link between consumption and the value actually created, and this tension sits at the heart of the AI business model.
Confirmed
- The original take came from lujasper, with JoshPurtell joining in and the two exchanging points repeatedly
- JoshPurtell argued that third-party agent harnesses (orchestration frameworks) aren't necessarily wasteful; the real problem is linear token pricing: paying linearly by volume gives framework designers no incentive to slim down context
- He noted that no agent genuinely needs 1 million tokens — that's pure inefficiency; with a properly rationalized harness and inference settings, consumption could drop to around 300,000 tokens
- He also pointed out that tokenizers cost almost nothing, yet the industry hasn't standardized on one for billing; Anthropic's tokenizer has long been accused by users of inflating token counts, which doesn't hurt performance but directly affects billing
- Distorted demand means consumers end up favoring lower-utility tokens when choosing models
Why it matters
- The discussion exposes a fundamental contradiction in the AI industry's business model: decoupling the billing unit from value delivered could distort behavior on both the supply and demand sides over the long run
- If pricing mechanisms don't evolve (e.g., toward outcome-based or bundled pricing), vendors have little incentive to optimize token efficiency, and users ultimately foot the bill
2026-11-07 ~ 2026-11-07 · 5 related posts
Primary sources
- [source] Tokens will go down as one of the great financial inventions of all time — lu__jasper · 2026-11-07
- Tokens called a great financial invention as billing decouples from value — JoshPurtell · 2026-11-07
- [source] Why has the AI industry not standardized a billing tokenizer? — JoshPurtell · 2026-11-07
- [source] Linear token pricing kills incentives: optimized agents could run at 300k tokens — JoshPurtell · 2026-11-07
- Linear token pricing breeds bloated agents — rationalized harnesses could run at ~300k tokens — JoshPurtell · 2026-11-07