Rumor: DeepSeek Training 2T-Parameter Model with 8T Planned, Entirely on Huawei Ascend Chips
From Sept 21–22, posts on X relayed claims that DeepSeek is training a 2T-parameter model with an 8T model planned, reportedly trained entirely on Huawei Ascend chips. None of this is officially confirmed, but if true it would mark a milestone for DeepSeek in both model scale and training hardware.
Confirmed
- The rumor was relayed by multiple X users: Terminator857 and Hesamation both reported DeepSeek training a 2T-parameter model with an 8T model planned; for reference, DeepSeek's current Flash is 552B parameters, Pro (V4 Pro) is 1.6T total with 49B active weights per token, and Kimi K3 is 2.8T
- Joseph Jacks, relaying @jenzhuscott, added that the 2T model is trained entirely on Huawei Ascend chips, calling it a turning point showing a top Chinese model lab can train frontier models outside the Nvidia ecosystem (no evidence attached)
- Hesamation added that DeepSeek expects new Huawei training chips between Q4 2026 and Q1 2027, and its CEO told investors the shift to domestic chips "must succeed"
Unconfirmed
- The specifics and progress of the 2T/8T models come from unverified rumors; DeepSeek has not responded
- X user EvilDragon233 speculated DeepSeek V5 will be an 8T-total/250B-active MoE possibly not released until late 2027; teortaxesTex joked about DeepSeek emphasizing defense while scaling up
Why it matters
- If the 2T model is real, it would be DeepSeek's largest model yet, well beyond the current 1.6T V4 Pro
- A full shift to Huawei domestic chips for large-scale training would mean breaking Nvidia dependence, an industry-signaling move
- teortaxesTex argued current LLM scaling is still alchemy: in theory equal active parameters should yield equal performance, Meta ran a dense 405B training on 16,000 H100s two years ago, and sparsity's MFU loss is manageable—implying the payoff of pure parameter scaling is debatable
2026-09-21 ~ 2026-09-22 · 6 related posts
Primary sources
- [source] Report: DeepSeek training a 2T-param model with 8T planned, Huawei chips due late 2026 — Hesamation · 2026-09-21
- [source] Hesamation follows up on DeepSeek's 2T/8T training and domestic chip plans — Hesamation · 2026-09-21
- [source] DeepSeek reportedly training a 2T-parameter model, with an 8T model on the roadmap — Terminator857 · 2026-09-21
- Unverified leak claims DeepSeek V5 is an 8T-param MoE with 250B active, due late 2027 — teortaxesTex · 2026-09-21
- DeepSeek rumored to train at 8T tokens as X users slam LLM scaling as alchemy — teortaxesTex · 2026-09-21
1 near-duplicate retellings: JosephJacks_